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Offline birddog

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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2014, 03:04:48 PM »
Depends on where you are hunting a 9mm will take care of most critters but if you were going to upgrade I would check out a 10mm vs a .45 just my opinion though. Last year in colorado I didn't carry anything but after I called in a cat my buddy carried his everyday.  However when I go to Wyoming in two years you bet I'll be carrying mine on me then.
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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2014, 03:11:25 PM »
Ruger SR9C 9mm 17rd clip one in the chamber, you never know what or who you are going to meet in the woods here in North Idaho.
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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2016, 11:06:11 PM »
Last year (2015) I got a KY bow cow tag while talking with the KY Dept of Wildlife told me that I could wear open in KY so I did. While scouting I come upon some bear skat that was a big as a gallon can and right in the middle of the road at that. Well after that all I have is a 357 so it was like it had grown on me. Also I had coyotes right around camp I could hear and where I was hunting I found coyote,bobcat,bear deer and elk tracks. More than one of the locals told me about sightings of cougar also and I do believe them. But after carrying the 357 I think I was under gunned so I have decided that is the number 2 to buy a Ruger Redhawk in 454 casual or in 460 which I could shoot 45 Long Colt,454 casual or 460 and I know they are heavier but I could use to hunt with also. But I want something that will give me that stopping power if I need it. While talking to a man at Walmart he said he carried a pistol in 357 sig does anyone have any info on this he said he has 15 rounds just 10 more than I would in a Ruger because I like a empty chamber under the hammer I mean there wouldn't be much left if that went off and hit your leg because I would carry on chest. Give me some info back on these things. Thanks DT in E TN     Eph.3:20      1st. Kings21:3

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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2016, 04:10:23 PM »
I should be better than I am.  I hunt in grizzly country, hear wolves regularly, and have had to kill a lion at 20 yards that wouldn't leave.  I have been better about carrying bear spray, but never carry heat while bow hunting.  I'm just too relaxed in the woods.

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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2016, 07:21:16 PM »
Just my two cents here.  I've been thinking about what sidearm makes the most sense in the backcountry and I've decided it comes down to knowing your area.  In Lang's case, hunting in grizzly/wolf country means I'd more likely want to pack something with more of a punch.  In the area I hunt, the worst I'll come across is a black bear or cougar and to date, I've yet to have an issue with either.  A few years back I purchased a .357 revolver for but realized that having only 5 shots in a gun that kicks like a mule was not the smartest choice.  For that reason, I just purchased a Sig 9mm that can hold 15 rounds and for me, that makes me feel comfortable.  I really think my biggest concern is running into the wrong person in the backcountry so for me, I feel a 9mm with 15 rounds should do the trick.  More accurate shots on target is what I've decided to go with.  It also fits my hand better, my kit, and has the right features I like.


All that said, you have to know your area.  Is it high risk or low risk?  Choose a caliber appropriate for the area. 


Lastly, I've noticed that when this question comes up in forums, there area million different opinions on which caliber to use or not use but in reality, only a few hunters/hikers have actually had to employ said caliber while in the backcountry so unless you're that guy who has first hand experience with what works and what doesn't work when it hits the fan, it's really just educated speculation.  Most of the time our sidearms serve as a security blanket or something that makes us sleep better at night.  For that reason alone, I vote that whatever caliber makes you most comfortable/confident, that's the caliber you go for. 


Does anyone agree or disagree?  I have a feeling I'll be searching for that perfect gun my entire life!  haha


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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2016, 06:08:44 PM »
Bugle has published the best article I've seen that looked at as many bear attacks over the last 100 years or so.  The consensus was that it really didn't make a huge difference when firearms were used the bear still had a large percentage of causing damage.  Spray on the other hand was by far more effective at stopping a bear and coming away without injuries.  I know we are all super fast gun slingers, we just underestimate how quick attacks happen, and what that huge bolus of adrenaline does to our ability to react.
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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2016, 08:05:04 AM »
Thanks for the nice bit of knowledge Lang!  It's funny you bring that up because for the longest time, I've been of the mindset that if the bear wants to get you..there's very little you can do about it.  Animals full of adrenalin are capable of taking a lot of rounds before going down and if they happen to have a hold of you before they expire, it's going to be a rough day.  I think the bear spray idea is probably the best bet though I've never had to employ either method.  Plus, there's no risk of killing an animal that doesn't need to be killed.


Great input man.


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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2016, 10:39:07 PM »
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Re: Who packs a pistol?
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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2016, 01:17:46 PM »
For you guys packing a revolver, what holster are you using? I have a .357 with a crappy Velcro holster that came with it.
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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2017, 11:02:23 PM »
I used to carry my .45 for the first  two days of a hunt and then would remember it's just black bears in my area and that a 1911 isnt light. I'll carry the Glock 19 9mm occasionally, more so for 2 legged protection in some areas that I shed hunt and scout but when chasing elk I don't see people. I just pack bear spray


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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2017, 05:59:11 AM »
Here is what I have seen and learned when it comes to carrying a pistol. A 9mm is not effective on any bear. I have literally seen black bears in a tree shot with a 9mm multiple times at less then 20 yds. ending up being killed with a rifle. When we skinned the bear the bullets just fell on the floor. They never penetrated passed the hide. Bear spray is the best, but if you want to carry go no smaller then a 40 for bears. 9mm works fine on cats, wolves or people. If you are truly worried about people remember to keep your distance when talking to them. I work in Law enforcement and it has been proven that it takes the avg. person 2 seconds to cover 21 feet. So we train to keep them at least that far away when talking to them. We also train to draw our weapon and fire 2 rounds center mass in under 2 secs. Most can do it in under 1. I do not worry about black bears, most turn and run, I do not hunt in grizzly country. I have killed multiple cats that have snuck into cow calls and I have seen some wolves so I carry a 9mm. It's lighter, less recoil and is easier to stay on target after each shot. I always carry it in the woods, scouting, hunting or just backpacking with my family.         
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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2017, 08:50:13 AM »
What is everyone's thoughts on carrying during bow season in Moose country? Where I hunt Elk in CO there are a lot of moose, last year when hunting solo, I spooked a bull moose in heavy brush at about 10-15 yards and I was not carrying, this year I bought a .45 as I wasn't very comfortable starring down a bull moose with only a bow in my hand!

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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2017, 10:02:17 AM »
I have a myriad of different pistols but here's what I do. In brownbear country I carry spray 1st and a .44mag 2nd...often both.


In country where it's just black bears and cats I carry a small 9 or 40. Not for 4 legged predators though, just 2 legged. I live in bear/wolf country and have come to a certain level of "comfort" with blacks, wolves and cats. Browns are a little more hostile and unpredictable. Background is in LE (no longer an LEO but some habits are hard to break) and still carry most days. I stopped bringing my big heavy wheelguns when I'm outside of brown bear country and usually bring a lightweight polymer frame counter part... having 15 rounds in a survival situation in the backcountry is alot more appealing than 6.


Other than brown bears it's never crossed my mind to carry a gun for four legged animals.

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Re: Who packs a pistol?
« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2017, 10:09:04 AM »
Just my two cents here.  I've been thinking about what sidearm makes the most sense in the backcountry and I've decided it comes down to knowing your area.  In Lang's case, hunting in grizzly/wolf country means I'd more likely want to pack something with more of a punch.  In the area I hunt, the worst I'll come across is a black bear or cougar and to date, I've yet to have an issue with either.  A few years back I purchased a .357 revolver for but realized that having only 5 shots in a gun that kicks like a mule was not the smartest choice.  For that reason, I just purchased a Sig 9mm that can hold 15 rounds and for me, that makes me feel comfortable.  I really think my biggest concern is running into the wrong person in the backcountry so for me, I feel a 9mm with 15 rounds should do the trick.  More accurate shots on target is what I've decided to go with.  It also fits my hand better, my kit, and has the right features I like.


All that said, you have to know your area.  Is it high risk or low risk?  Choose a caliber appropriate for the area. 


Lastly, I've noticed that when this question comes up in forums, there area million different opinions on which caliber to use or not use but in reality, only a few hunters/hikers have actually had to employ said caliber while in the backcountry so unless you're that guy who has first hand experience with what works and what doesn't work when it hits the fan, it's really just educated speculation.  Most of the time our sidearms serve as a security blanket or something that makes us sleep better at night.  For that reason alone, I vote that whatever caliber makes you most comfortable/confident, that's the caliber you go for. 


Does anyone agree or disagree?  I have a feeling I'll be searching for that perfect gun my entire life!  haha


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9mm is a fine choice, if you were going into thinking you might have to use it on a black bear I would buy the +P rounds from Buff Bore and not worry about needing something bigger. The most you can hope for with any handgun in a bear situation is to deter them, odds of killing them dead right now isn't good. You're not likely going to stop a charging bear, even a black one, dead in it's tracks with a .44 much less a 9mm unless you hit the goodies between and above the eyes. Hopefully you can inflict enough trauma and make enough noise to make them realize what they're doing is a bad decision. If you shoot it well with some stout ammo, then you've mastered 3/4's of the equation

 

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