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Offline cohunter14

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Which Would You Choose?
« on: July 09, 2018, 12:27:09 PM »

I'm considering making some changes to my current arrow setup. If it were you, which of these arrows would be your preference? The speed and FOC numbers are guestimates, but should be pretty close. I realize this is quite a wide spread, but just curious what everyone has to say.


Arrow 1: 429 grains, 285 feet per second, 9.83% FOC
Arrow 2: 454 grains, 277 feet per second, 11.48% FOC
Arrow 3: 467 grains, 272 feet per second, 13.18% FOC
Arrow 4: 492 grains, 264 feet per second, 14.75% FOC
Arrow 5: 517 grains, 256 feet per second, 16.95% FOC
Arrow 6: 543 grains, 247 feet per second, 18.20% FOC

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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2018, 01:19:59 PM »
Im not a speed person so my preference would be 4-6. A heavier arrow will quiet the bow and I like to have some more KE/momentum since never know what can happen. All will work given proper shot placement and nothing out of the ordinary.


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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2018, 01:39:21 PM »
What's interesting is Kinetic Energy goes down as the arrow gets heavier, but Momentum increases. I added the KE in ft/lbs and Momentum in slugs below:

Arrow 1: 429 grains, 285 feet per second, 9.83% FOC, 77.36 ft/lbs, .543 slugs
Arrow 2: 454 grains, 277 feet per second, 11.48% FOC, 77.34 ft/lbs, .558 slugs
Arrow 3: 467 grains, 272 feet per second, 13.18% FOC, 76.70 ft/lbs, .564 slugs
Arrow 4: 492 grains, 264 feet per second, 14.75% FOC, 76.13 ft/lbs, .577 slugs
Arrow 5: 517 grains, 256 feet per second, 16.95% FOC, 75.22 ft/lbs, .588 slugs
Arrow 6: 543 grains, 247 feet per second, 18.20% FOC, 73.55 ft/lbs, .596 slugs
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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2018, 02:12:03 PM »

I'd go with what you want, I think people over think things to much. I've been shooting the same arrows for years out of different bows and have killed plenty of animals no matter the speed, KE, momentum. I shoot a 400 grain arrow at 315 fps  with the bow I have now, speed makes up for a missed judgement in yardage. I shoot a single pin slider but leave it set on 40 yards. At 20 yards I'm about 4" high and at 50 yards I'm about 2" low anything over that distance I have always had time to slide my pin.


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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2018, 03:51:56 PM »

I'd go with what you want, I think people over think things to much.



Very true, it's easy to complicate things! I just figured I'd get other thoughts on it as well. I know where I'm leaning, but it's nice to hear opinions.

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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2018, 05:05:15 PM »
I like 2-4!

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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2018, 06:47:16 PM »
4 is really close to what I shoot... Be like me!

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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2018, 04:32:50 AM »
I've shot three set ups so far at elk and this year will be a little different


When I first started I was underweight at 396 grains. It killed two elk, but never gave me that warm fuzzy. It was great for deer, but not where I wanted it for elk.
Then I went up to 500 grains. That was very nice and zipped through the elk that I shot that year like butter. I liked the set ups, but the arrows were wrapped for the extra weight. I didn't like that so I went back down.
The following set up was around 430 grains. Again... effective on the elk I shot, but I wanted just a little more.
So this year Ill be similar to something between 2-3. I'll probably be around 460gr.  No idea on the FOC of any of these because I don't honestly pay attention to that.




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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2018, 07:25:28 AM »
I was shooting 430 gr and like Dan went up to a 502 last year. I liked the way it blew through an animal. I even related a couple marginal hits to having a better outcome do to the added weight. My bow was shooting about 265. my FOC was 13ish.

This year I have a new bow and do to much more speed have backed down the weight to 340 again. I am pushing 295 fps and my FOC should be at 13 ish still.

One thing I didn't like about the heavy arrow was more of an arch in the arrow flight. Threading the needle last year I hit a limb on a tree that deflected my arrow just under the brisket of a 330 bull. The faster arrow probably would have hit its mark.

I like choice 1 as the weight and speed are close to mine but the FOC is a little low for my liking. If I had to choose one I would pick number 2.

Any of them would do the job if they hit the sweet spot.
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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2018, 07:28:02 AM »
An additional note.....  I shot the 502 and 430 grain arrows with the new bow and have noticed very little difference in penetration in the target. However last year with the slower bow the 502 penetrated 3 inches deeper.  :think:
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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2018, 08:51:30 AM »
My set up is very close to #2 , 446 gr about 11% FOC.  I think this is a good compromise of speed vs penetration.  This year I am shooting a new bow which more efficient at my draw length and draw weight. So we will see how it works out.


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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2018, 09:10:55 AM »
Being limited in draw length, I'm not a speed guy.  My current setup is within a few grains and FPS of your #2 arrow.  For me its an excellent balance of speed and momentum.  Killed all three elk I've shot at with this setup.  No recovery has been longer than 50yds.

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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2018, 09:21:33 AM »
WatzAmatta! Can't hit what you're aiming at with your present setup? If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tinkering can get you in trouble!

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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2018, 09:47:23 AM »
I'm shooting 454 at 317fps so this is a little different than my set up. However I thing any of those options will kill so pick one and go hunting.


Not that you wasn't going to anyway.  :upthumb:

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Re: Which Would You Choose?
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2018, 10:46:05 AM »
WatzAmatta! Can't hit what you're aiming at with your present setup? If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tinkering can get you in trouble!



Hahaha, very true Bill. I guess I just want to go a tad bit heavier?


I'm shooting 454 at 317fps so this is a little different than my set up. However I thing any of those options will kill so pick one and go hunting.


Not that you wasn't going to anyway.  :upthumb:


Wow, that's a crazy fast setup right there. I'm pulling 64lbs on a 30.5" draw length and a 330 IBO bow. No idea how you can get to those speeds at that weight, but that's awesome.

 

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