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Archery / Re: Arrow Setup For Elk
« on: January 26, 2021, 02:15:04 PM »
This is like asking a bunch of cooks how to make the best chili. Each one will have their own recipe.
My suggestion is keeping the rear of shaft as light as possible (Vanes or feathers). At you arrow length and poundage you will need a stiff shaft. The shaft's spine can and will differ depending on how much point weight you shoot.
Broadheads should be super sharp and sturdy in construction.

I shoot 65# and 30" arrow. My arrows are 250 Black Eagle Carnivore with 4 blazer vanes. I have 200 grain Ethics Archery steel inserts and shoot 125 grain Slick Trick Standards. This gives me a total arrow weight of 650 grains. This is a heavy arrow with high FOC.

This arrow also accomplishes the weight that Dr. Ed Ashby considers the bone breaking threshold. He also recommends single bevel broadheads. Troy Fowler that hosts Wray Ranch Fairy on Youtube and has many vids on heavy arrow builds. Watch them and decide if that is the recipe you want.

You may want to go with a lighter arrow and lighter point weights. Plenty of animals are taken with these arrows every year. Just dont go too light looking for high speed and super flat shooting arrows.

For several years I shot a 100 grain brass insert and 125 grain broadhead and had pass throughs and killed elk with it. I went heavier because I like the extra odds of still getting lethal kills "if" hitting heavy bone. Hitting heavy bone is not what you want to do but it can happen. It has happened to me twice using lighter arrows and I got two inches of penetration and no elk.

Hopefully you will get other opinions and options. Lots of info and choices. Good Luck on finding your arrow.

Hunt Planner / Re: Finding hunting dudes to elk hunt
« on: December 03, 2020, 04:12:31 PM »
I would suggest going to archery shooting events and archery clubs and talk about elk hunting. You are looking for someone that has a strong desire for the adventure.
My hunting partner and I worked at the same place and we heard that each other hunted deer. We eventually met and began deer and turkey hunting together. Over several years the elk hunting interest evolved for both of us. He got drawn for a Kentucky cow tag for archery and that sealed the deal. Colorado was our next choice and this past season was our 12th year going out. We have had some amazing and some terrible hunts.
We have had a couple other people go over the years and "many" more that said they "dream" of elk hunting in the Rocky Mountains. When the time to make the decision to go those dreamers had excuses and reasons not to go. It is a small percentage that will have the true desire and will do it and have the family support and money.
There is also the factor of knowing someone and how they will act or react to going that far and for that long. I also compare an archery elk hunt to going to "boot camp". It can/will push you to your limit both physically and mentally. All that will usually surface in 4-5 days telling who you are and who you are hunting with. As good of friends as my hunting partner and I are, we have come close to fighting and have exchanged words that we later regretted. This is due to fatigue and a complete change of normal daily life. Perhaps some do not experience this but I have witnessed several times.
I say all this to say that picking an elk hunting partner is like finding a spouse and should not be taken lightly. I would suggest finding someone to hunt with and taking a couple weekend hunting trips and getting to know them well. Once you are thousands of miles from home and everyone is miserable it will destroy a great hunting adventure. I know a man that has taken two different guys elk hunting and within a couple days they both wanted to go home. He cut his trip short for one of them because the guy whined terribly and was miserable. He was in short "home sick" and did not realize what he was getting into.
Good elk hunting partners are hard to find, choose carefully and you will have the greatest hunting experience of your life and someone to share the adventures until death do you part.

Archery / Re: What arrow is everyone shooting for an elk set up?
« on: July 21, 2020, 05:07:32 PM »
Last years arrow set-up, resulted in first arrow being a pass through and second arrow stopped with 4 inches of arrow sticking out. So they did good for me.

This year will be CX in a .300 spine, 100 grain brass insert and 250 Grizzly single bevel, 4 Blazer vanes. 21.8 FOC.  Weight is 675 and shooting 266 fps from a Mathews VXR.

Hunting Gear / Re: What is a good drop away rest?
« on: June 16, 2020, 08:23:22 AM »
QAD HDX.....went from a whisker biscuit to the QAD and was glad I did. Once installed and sighted in, do the walk back tuning for fine adjustment. Have deer and elk hunted with mine and no issues.

Archery / Re: vpa vs cutthroat ?
« on: May 30, 2020, 06:37:34 PM »
I have looked at the VPA several times and like those a lot. The Cutthroats look just as good. I am shooting the 250gr Grizzly single bevel this year. I haven't taken an elk with that broadhead yet but hopes are high.

Good question, I hope there is a lot of response.

Archery / Re: hunting arrow issue
« on: May 17, 2020, 05:36:59 AM »
I would remove the 60 grain insert and put in a 100 grain brass insert. That will raise your arrow weight some but should fly well. As mentioned before, check out Ranch Fairy's Youtube videos on tuning heavy arrow setups.

You may also look at walk back tuning to get your arrow rest in the right spot.

Archery / Re: hunting arrow issue
« on: May 07, 2020, 06:04:42 PM »

I do not think you are shooting too much front end weight. If your shafts are .250 spine you may have too stiff of a spine.

I'm shooting a Carbon Express Hunter Red 450 which is a .300 spine. It's the stiffest spine they offer. The arrow is 9.7 grains an inch. I shoot a 30 inch shaft. It has a 100 grain brass insert and a 250 grain razor sharp Grizzly broadhead. Back end has four blazer vanes. Total arrow is 674 grains and I am shooting 65# Mathews VXR. Arrows fly great and hit hard with 21 % FOC.
This is designed for max penetration.

Check out Ranch Fairy on Youtube and watch his videos. You can also email or message him and he will respond about your set-up.

General Elk Hunting / Re: Colorado public land hunt
« on: March 30, 2020, 06:02:43 PM »
You can go to a Wildlife Office and show your hunter safety card and get it "verified". You will not need to have it when buying any license in the future.
If you look at maps and if two public lands touch at a corner, you can not legally cross from one corner into the next corner. That only applies where the corner points touch.
Many roads can give you access but you can not park on the sides. There is usually obvious parking spots where you can.

Hunt Planner / Re: Colorado 2020 archery hunt
« on: March 25, 2020, 02:47:44 PM »
I always think of the show "Mantracker" and the guy always said "Know your land, Know your pray". That means a lot!
The land; Cover ground, knowing where the north facing dark timber, aspen thickets, wallows, food fields and water will cover the land. Also,most elk I have hunted move down at night and up in the morning.
The prey; LEARN TO CALL! USE THE WIND! some may disagree with this one but I believe two hunters with one shooting and one calling is deadly on elk. Hunt all day if you can. If you are not seeing or hearing elk then move.

This is short but I believe it covers what I focus on.

Elk Hunting Tips & Tactics / Re: Calling In Cows
« on: February 13, 2020, 05:00:46 PM »
Just an observation from the last couple years. When a bull gets on a cow in heat and she has a calf, the calf will get booted out of the herd or the calf may not be able to keep up with its mom getting chased by a bull and was left behind. Either way they will make a repeated and loud call while moving through the woods. They are desperate to get back in the herd and find mamma. Learn that calf call/sound and you can bring in cows. Plus it's a good bet that a bull is in the area chasing a hot cow if you locate a calf running by itself calling.
One call I use to mimic the sound is the "Elk Reel". It's also a good call to mix in with adult cow sounds.

Other Big Game Hunting / Re: Florida archery buck
« on: February 13, 2020, 04:43:15 PM »
That's an excellent Florida buck. Congrats on a close encounter harvest. Those ears are probably cut by those 3 lb skitters doing flybys.

Campfire / Re: So Long Ol Arky
« on: February 07, 2020, 08:08:44 PM »

Sorry to hear this. I only talked to him on the forum but he was a man you knew would help you any way he could.

Physical Conditioning / Re: Age and elk hunting
« on: December 10, 2019, 05:59:57 PM »
Excellent question and more interesting responses. I'm 62 this year and bow hunted Colorado with two younger guys. My buddy commented that I stayed with them every inch of the way. I shot a bull and my buddy did also. As strange as it may sound, I feel better when I am hunting elk than most of the year. I am feeling the years but hope to get several more in. I got points to use

Very impressed with the 80 year old, humping it and sleeping under tarps..I'll bet he was hard to keep up with in his younger years.

General Elk Hunting / Re: 2019 Elk season MEAT POLE!
« on: October 23, 2019, 06:29:18 AM »
NC Boys got on the chart in Colorado (09/26/2019). My buddy called one in for me, in the morning and I called one in for him that evening. We both cut our tags the same day.

General Elk Hunting / Re: Blondie
« on: October 23, 2019, 06:20:39 AM »
Great bull, Congrats!

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