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General Elk Hunting / Re: First Timer - Units 44, 45, 444
« on: April 20, 2021, 01:06:54 PM »
Archery or Rifle?

That's a tough area for sure, I've spent quite a bit of time in there with mixed results.

Expect a lot of hikers/campers etc. 

General Elk Hunting / Re: Colorado or Oregon
« on: March 03, 2021, 09:06:02 AM »
So I did say trail head, but I meant from the truck. It's easier to just say TH and it makes more sense imo. I very rarely went in on a trail and hunted from the side of the road.

General Elk Hunting / Re: Colorado or Oregon
« on: March 02, 2021, 08:19:15 AM »
I don't know where cohunter14 is hunting, but any unit I was in last year in CO was busier than I've ever seen it before.

I personally did not enjoy hunting OTC last year. I got into elk often, but saw tons of hunters.

I hunt to get food for the family and see animals being animals. The elk I saw in CO mostly went nocturnal, and they did not act like "normal elk" they were pressured beyond belief and reacted accordingly. It's a different hunt, hunting pressured animals vs animals being "wild". The amount of Bugles in OTC units has been dropping every year in Sept. I hear more bugles 1st and 2nd rifle than I do the entire month of September during archery.

Edit - If you are only doing OTC you're kind of stuck, but I've heard that going for a draw unit even one that takes 1 point will really improve your experience. I had friends in draw units last year that took 0 points and they were into bugling bulls often. I did not hear an actual "elk" bugle during my 15 days throughout September (glassed up well over 200 elk though so they're there, just not vocal). I heard plenty of Primos calls though. This was hunting anywhere from 1-7 miles from the TH.

Hunting Gear / Re: Battery Powered Trail Bikes
« on: February 17, 2021, 07:55:39 AM »
If you're in an area with a lot of old logging roads they'd be awesome. Here in CO there is no point, besides they're being limited on trails all over.

Someone posted up a video on Archery talk about a year ago with "real world" examples of hunting off bike, it was a husband and wife duo,. Long story short, they hated it and didn't even make it as far as if they hiked.

General Elk Hunting / Re: Best CO Unit For 17 Points?
« on: January 11, 2021, 08:58:55 AM »
Is he non-res? Even so, that's more points than i'd ever drop for 49.

Non-res Muzzleloader took 12 points last year (3/13 drew with 12) 13 points was 100%.
Resident was 6 points.

I helped a few friends out in 49 in 2019, it's not a unit I'd be dropping over 10 points on. There are a lot of elk, but not many huge bulls. Unfortunatley, having 17 points puts you in between a bunch of units, I think there are certainly better than 49, but your options are limited.

Edit: Get GoHunt insider, it will help you find a unit that you think will give you the best chance for success. Having said I wouldn't spend 10+ points in 49 doesn't mean it won't be a good hunt. If his goal is to see elk, and potentially get a bull then 49 would be a great hunt, if he's holding out for a 300"+ bull then I certainly wouldn't go for 49.

Hunting Gear / Re: Spotting scope questiono
« on: December 21, 2020, 09:25:03 AM »
Have you used a spotter before? The reason I ask is I'm not a huge fan of them for myself, my eyes get really strained using just a spotter for glassing. I only use a spotter if I want to get "really really" close.

For tripod spend the money and get a good one. I like the Promaster Xc525C, it's a great tripod and isn't insanely expensive. I also upgraded the head to a fluid pan head as the ball head wasn't amazing for me.

For my hunting I use my 18x56 Maven B5's instead of my spotter 95% of the time. Even using my older 10x42 vipers on the tripod lets me spot tons of animals.

The only thing the spotter does that my glass doesn't is really gets close to count stickers/extra funk etc. My 18s do well enough for me to decide if it's legal and if I should chase.

For affordable glass that looks way better than the price suggests look at Maven's C line. They lack some features and niceties of the higher end glass, but overall they're an excellent value.

Classifieds / Re: looking for wild hunted meat
« on: November 19, 2020, 09:28:55 AM »
As an FYI, I believe this is very illegal for someone to do. I don't think someone that has harvested an animal can sell you anything. They can donate meat to you, but selling is a no go.

Hunting Gear / Re: Suggestion on a 1500-2000 CI pack?
« on: October 07, 2020, 09:56:02 AM »
For the budget of the 2200 you likely won't beat it imo. There are some that really don't like that pack, but I used it my first 3-4 years out west and it works well. I personally do like how it carries weight, but it does get hot on my back. You can often find this pack on Amazon/sale for well under $200 so it's hard to beat.

That being said, if you can spend more get a Myster Ranch, Kifaru, Stone Glacier, or EXO pack. You will not regret it. I have a SG 3300 and use it for everything. This pack carries weight better than anything else I've used and packs down small enough to be a great daypack.

Hunt Planner / Re: Colorado Unit 18 - Archery
« on: August 24, 2020, 12:39:46 PM »
I would strongly advise against going to Unit 18. It is one of the most pressured units i've been in, and it is easily the most popular unit asked about on any of the forums/FB etc. With the Williams fork fire and Cameron fire it'll be a zoo.

Elk Hunting Tips & Tactics / Re: Looking for any help or advice
« on: August 20, 2020, 10:46:09 AM »
Are you looking for handouts, or have you put in some work?

I don't think you're going to get what you're after if you haven't at least put in some work.

Archery / Re: compound bows with a 32 inch draw length
« on: July 06, 2020, 09:17:31 AM »
I couldn't find many myself. I have a Prime CT9 set to 32".

General Elk Hunting / Re: Colorado unit 49
« on: June 24, 2020, 08:46:05 AM »
I know of at least 3 people that hunted it last year during various season. All got bulls, none saw monsters.

During archery I heard there was plenty of bugling pretty much the whole month. I was in the woods during 1st rifle glassing for a couple friends and still heard bugling and saw tons of elk.

There is a lot of pressure from both Hunters, and recreationalists, but the Elk didn't really seem to mind that much. We truck camped and were able to access everything int he morning/evening relatively easy.

If you're looking for huge bulls this isn't the unit to go to honestly, but if you're looking for a good, fun hunt you'll have a great time. Take the first 300" bull you see because there aren't many in there.

Hunting Gear / Re: Wiggy super lite
« on: June 15, 2020, 09:07:42 AM »
What's your budget? I don't know anything about those but there isn't a ton of information on the site. Personally I like down, treated down works well even when wet, but it does not insulate quite as well as synthetic in very wet climates so keep that in mind.

I have an older Marmot 30* that i've been using for years now and I bring that down into the 20's. I am having Ben at Goosefeetgear build me a custom quilt that will be a bit warmer while also saving weight. That's a pricey option, but I intend on using this for the next 10 years.

A few of the "Custom" brands that make awesome gear but are pricey are:
Enlightened Equipment

Check out what backpacking Thru-hikers are using. They're having to use a bag for 100's of nights and often times are running into a ton of different climates, while also having to keep it packable/light. I'd check what PCT or CDT hikers are using and look for something similar.

General Elk Hunting / Re: Elk in burns
« on: June 15, 2020, 08:22:07 AM »
In my experience it's more about how hot the fire got. If the blaze was very hot it'll take longer for new growth to pop up and from what I've seen longer for animals to come back. If the burn wasn't crazy hot they'll be back in there the following year.

Hunt Planner / Re: Colorado OTC Archery - Unit 28
« on: June 10, 2020, 07:07:57 AM »
Not a unit I would really hunt. I was in there last year a couple times and there is a ton of pressure and not a lot of Elk.

I got into elk, but the terrain they were in was nasty. Lots of blowdown/deadfall. It's also one of the closer units to me, so I may go back to my spot from last year at some point, but I would definitely look elsewhere, most of the hunters I talked to had not see anything.

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