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Title: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: nclonghunter on March 02, 2013, 09:59:44 PM
Colorado allows a pistol carry when bowhunting for protection from bears. I have a .380 caliber that is small, but MAY keep a black bear away. I know it's not even close to grizzly medicine.
What pistols if any do you carry?
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Post by: wapiti_will on March 02, 2013, 10:13:05 PM
I carry a .45 ACP, but I can't say it's for bears (don't really worry about them).  It's for large cats that feel the need to follow me around and the potentially stupid two legged creatures out there.
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Post by: BullHunter on March 03, 2013, 01:11:32 AM
Not worried about the bears, definitely the wolves or cats.  I carry a Glock .40 which works just fine.  Also for those people out there that think they run the mountain and want to start some problems.
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Post by: Montana_BackCountry on March 03, 2013, 07:37:08 AM
I carry a Taurus judge which has a .45 long colt.  I'm not convinced it'd do too much tho.  I also have bear spray which is probably more effective in low wind conditions.  A guy here in montana put down a charging griz with a .357 magnum last Spring so I guess it's possible. 
The griz was a mother unfortunately... illustrating more reason to at least carry bear spray as non lethal deterrent.
When dealing with griz i think the best prevention is pre-prevention.  Be heads up out there.
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Post by: Mountain Bowhunter on March 03, 2013, 11:34:04 AM
Springfield XDm-9.  Definitely not a big round but the noise alone could scare off a black bear
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Post by: ghost on March 03, 2013, 02:18:49 PM
.44 Magnum
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Post by: Kmbingham92 on March 03, 2013, 08:01:15 PM
I carry a S&W 40 with me at all times. Used to carry pepper spray but don't like packing it on my hip with everything else. The holster with pistol hooks on my pack so it works out good.
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Post by: turbo1967 on March 03, 2013, 08:32:13 PM
just a .22 for me,us it for shooting grouse if the elk hunting is slow.
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Post by: MTbowhunter1984 on March 03, 2013, 08:41:34 PM
I stick to bear spray but also carry a .380 as well.
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Post by: Oregonbowhiker on March 03, 2013, 11:28:14 PM
Don't feel comfortable without my S&W MP .40 after seeing a few cats up close over the last two years.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: nclonghunter on March 04, 2013, 06:44:06 AM
There are a few cats were I hunt in Colorado but never thought they would approach a hunter. Seems from posts they are more of a concern than bears.
Are there more cat attacks or encounters than bear?
Neither one sounds inviting.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: 1320quick on March 04, 2013, 11:51:43 AM
I carry my .357 magnum as it's the largest caliber handgun I own. I'd love to have a larger caliber revolver but it's just not in the budget currently.
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Post by: birddog on March 05, 2013, 05:05:23 PM
I never thought about carrying my 45 but with so many of you carrying, it has made me reconsider carrying it.
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Post by: wapiti_will on March 05, 2013, 09:57:51 PM
There are a few cats were I hunt in Colorado but never thought they would approach a hunter. Seems from posts they are more of a concern than bears.
Are there more cat attacks or encounters than bear?
Neither one sounds inviting.


statistics don't really put my mind at ease when it comes to cats.  my concern is because of the amount of time i spend hiking in the dark and the uncertainty of a cat's intentions. i know several guys that have had cats follow them around (probably just curiosity), and i just don't know if i could easily understand their intentions.  so I want to be able to scare them off (if they don't run, then i know what they are thinking  :-\ ).  when i think of a black bear encounter i feel my decision is simpler.  if a black bear is following me or sees me and doesn't run, then they're a threat and need to be treated as such.  not sure my reasoning is perfectly sound, but it's just what i'm thinking when i'm in the woods.
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Post by: meye8090 on March 05, 2013, 10:11:57 PM
I always carry my Glock 10mm.  Too many Lions, Bears and Growers to not pack it.
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Post by: farmboy on March 05, 2013, 10:20:31 PM
45 cal.  Hope i never need it.  Cats and bears are a concern, but hunting public land I'm probably more concerned about stumbling into some druggy and his little pot farm.  Like I said, I hope I never need it but I think it's worth carrying just in case.
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Post by: polishturkey on March 06, 2013, 07:31:23 AM
I carry a .357 but its just for any crazy thing out there.  Four legs or two.
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Post by: sumnerhorses on March 06, 2013, 07:33:48 AM
I pack a .40 just in case I run into any predators with an attitude.
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Post by: buckykm1 on March 06, 2013, 07:44:40 AM
When I hunt Montana I carry my Glock Model 22, 40 S & W when I am scouting, I only rifle hunt, so once the Season starts I just carry my Rifle.
there are to many critters up there that might want me for dinner, so I never leave camp without a gun.
 
Kevin
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Post by: Jimbow65 on March 06, 2013, 08:42:15 AM
I don't carry a pistol, I don't have one, but if I did have one, I still probably wouldn't, just extra weight.
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Post by: cowboystl1 on January 02, 2014, 09:49:27 AM
380? man thats small i hope your useing a round that causes damage in that thing even a 9 is to small for me i prefer my m&p shield for backpacking 40. cal or my judge and with my judge in some states i can change up the diet and pop a grouse or squirrel or bunny at close range with the 410 round
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Post by: kikinhorse on January 02, 2014, 04:51:28 PM
I have always packed one. After this year I always will. My 12 year old son and I were working a big 6 point bull when I heard loud puffing noises. Looked to the left and a black bear sow and two cubs were coming to my son calling. One cub went behind him and the sow immediately charged when she saw him. I don't even remember what I did with my bow, but I put two rounds in front of her feet, It stopped her and the cubs took off. One more step and I would have shot her. We put our packs back on and were a little shook up, when she came back. I grabbed my son and slowly walked backwards up the mountain.  Called Mom later that evening and she drove 4 hours with some bear spray for my son. :)
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Post by: coloelko on January 02, 2014, 08:44:15 PM
44 special  Taurus ultralight.   haven't needed it yet. Hope I never do
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Post by: Montana_BackCountry on January 03, 2014, 06:45:05 AM
Wild story kickin horse... glad you guys were ok.
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Post by: hank4elk on January 03, 2014, 12:07:03 PM
I carry a Taurus 24/7 9mm 17 rd clip.
I don't hunt bow anymore,but always have it scouting, guiding,hunting.  For cats,bears,follow up shots and 2 legged critters. 
It's a county ordinance here that every household have a firearm for protection....no crime to speak of here.
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Post by: Big Tex on January 03, 2014, 09:18:24 PM
Personally, never carried anything more than bear spray.
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Post by: Elk Addict on January 04, 2014, 09:09:53 AM
Just carry my bow....no pistol, no spray....just my Matthews and five Meat Missiles tipped with Muzzy's.
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Post by: crew25 on January 06, 2014, 08:40:12 AM
Dont bow hunt, but when I am scouting and shed hunting I always have my .45 ACP (cats scare me more than anything). And when I am flyfishing, I normally carry my .380 (more thinking about problem 2 legged critters).
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Post by: WileyJ on April 08, 2014, 10:37:38 AM
bear spray, and my 12 gauge in a tac sling.  Added weight, yes, but I dont worry about if its going to stop what I shooting if it comes to it.  Had Wolves push me off a mountain, 6 yearsago and i felt at that time my 9mm was not going to be enough, too many of them...
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: Garrett Weaver on April 08, 2014, 11:39:02 AM
I recenctly got a 9mm xd just for bow season. Its my first pistol but im already thinking I should have bought the .45 for a little more peice of mind. I Figured a 16 shot clip should be enough when I got the 9mm to scare anything off. Especially 2 legged critters.
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Post by: birddog on April 08, 2014, 03:04:48 PM
Depends on where you are hunting a 9mm will take care of most critters but if you were going to upgrade I would check out a 10mm vs a .45 just my opinion though. Last year in colorado I didn't carry anything but after I called in a cat my buddy carried his everyday.  However when I go to Wyoming in two years you bet I'll be carrying mine on me then.
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Post by: AWHunt CDA,ID on April 08, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
Ruger SR9C 9mm 17rd clip one in the chamber, you never know what or who you are going to meet in the woods here in North Idaho.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: tn ehunter on February 21, 2016, 11:06:11 PM
Last year (2015) I got a KY bow cow tag while talking with the KY Dept of Wildlife told me that I could wear open in KY so I did. While scouting I come upon some bear skat that was a big as a gallon can and right in the middle of the road at that. Well after that all I have is a 357 so it was like it had grown on me. Also I had coyotes right around camp I could hear and where I was hunting I found coyote,bobcat,bear deer and elk tracks. More than one of the locals told me about sightings of cougar also and I do believe them. But after carrying the 357 I think I was under gunned so I have decided that is the number 2 to buy a Ruger Redhawk in 454 casual or in 460 which I could shoot 45 Long Colt,454 casual or 460 and I know they are heavier but I could use to hunt with also. But I want something that will give me that stopping power if I need it. While talking to a man at Walmart he said he carried a pistol in 357 sig does anyone have any info on this he said he has 15 rounds just 10 more than I would in a Ruger because I like a empty chamber under the hammer I mean there wouldn't be much left if that went off and hit your leg because I would carry on chest. Give me some info back on these things. Thanks DT in E TN     Eph.3:20      1st. Kings21:3
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Post by: lang on February 26, 2016, 04:10:23 PM
I should be better than I am.  I hunt in grizzly country, hear wolves regularly, and have had to kill a lion at 20 yards that wouldn't leave.  I have been better about carrying bear spray, but never carry heat while bow hunting.  I'm just too relaxed in the woods.
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Post by: byland on March 01, 2016, 07:21:16 PM
Just my two cents here.  I've been thinking about what sidearm makes the most sense in the backcountry and I've decided it comes down to knowing your area.  In Lang's case, hunting in grizzly/wolf country means I'd more likely want to pack something with more of a punch.  In the area I hunt, the worst I'll come across is a black bear or cougar and to date, I've yet to have an issue with either.  A few years back I purchased a .357 revolver for but realized that having only 5 shots in a gun that kicks like a mule was not the smartest choice.  For that reason, I just purchased a Sig 9mm that can hold 15 rounds and for me, that makes me feel comfortable.  I really think my biggest concern is running into the wrong person in the backcountry so for me, I feel a 9mm with 15 rounds should do the trick.  More accurate shots on target is what I've decided to go with.  It also fits my hand better, my kit, and has the right features I like.


All that said, you have to know your area.  Is it high risk or low risk?  Choose a caliber appropriate for the area. 


Lastly, I've noticed that when this question comes up in forums, there area million different opinions on which caliber to use or not use but in reality, only a few hunters/hikers have actually had to employ said caliber while in the backcountry so unless you're that guy who has first hand experience with what works and what doesn't work when it hits the fan, it's really just educated speculation.  Most of the time our sidearms serve as a security blanket or something that makes us sleep better at night.  For that reason alone, I vote that whatever caliber makes you most comfortable/confident, that's the caliber you go for. 


Does anyone agree or disagree?  I have a feeling I'll be searching for that perfect gun my entire life!  haha


-Emory
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Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: lang on March 03, 2016, 06:08:44 PM
Bugle has published the best article I've seen that looked at as many bear attacks over the last 100 years or so.  The consensus was that it really didn't make a huge difference when firearms were used the bear still had a large percentage of causing damage.  Spray on the other hand was by far more effective at stopping a bear and coming away without injuries.  I know we are all super fast gun slingers, we just underestimate how quick attacks happen, and what that huge bolus of adrenaline does to our ability to react.
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Post by: byland on March 04, 2016, 08:05:04 AM
Thanks for the nice bit of knowledge Lang!  It's funny you bring that up because for the longest time, I've been of the mindset that if the bear wants to get you..there's very little you can do about it.  Animals full of adrenalin are capable of taking a lot of rounds before going down and if they happen to have a hold of you before they expire, it's going to be a rough day.  I think the bear spray idea is probably the best bet though I've never had to employ either method.  Plus, there's no risk of killing an animal that doesn't need to be killed.


Great input man.


Emory
byland.co
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Post by: Elk crazy on March 18, 2016, 10:39:07 PM
Springfield XD 45acp
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Post by: lang on April 03, 2016, 10:26:28 AM
Found link to the bear spray article.
http://www.rmef.org/NewsandMedia/BugleMagazine/Archives.aspx (http://www.rmef.org/NewsandMedia/BugleMagazine/Archives.aspx)
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Post by: MT_mulies on April 15, 2016, 01:17:46 PM
For you guys packing a revolver, what holster are you using? I have a .357 with a crappy Velcro holster that came with it.
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Post by: 208HUSHN on April 09, 2017, 11:02:23 PM
I used to carry my .45 for the first  two days of a hunt and then would remember it's just black bears in my area and that a 1911 isnt light. I'll carry the Glock 19 9mm occasionally, more so for 2 legged protection in some areas that I shed hunt and scout but when chasing elk I don't see people. I just pack bear spray


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Post by: Heath74 on April 10, 2017, 05:59:11 AM
Here is what I have seen and learned when it comes to carrying a pistol. A 9mm is not effective on any bear. I have literally seen black bears in a tree shot with a 9mm multiple times at less then 20 yds. ending up being killed with a rifle. When we skinned the bear the bullets just fell on the floor. They never penetrated passed the hide. Bear spray is the best, but if you want to carry go no smaller then a 40 for bears. 9mm works fine on cats, wolves or people. If you are truly worried about people remember to keep your distance when talking to them. I work in Law enforcement and it has been proven that it takes the avg. person 2 seconds to cover 21 feet. So we train to keep them at least that far away when talking to them. We also train to draw our weapon and fire 2 rounds center mass in under 2 secs. Most can do it in under 1. I do not worry about black bears, most turn and run, I do not hunt in grizzly country. I have killed multiple cats that have snuck into cow calls and I have seen some wolves so I carry a 9mm. It's lighter, less recoil and is easier to stay on target after each shot. I always carry it in the woods, scouting, hunting or just backpacking with my family.         
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Post by: adamds22 on April 10, 2017, 08:50:13 AM
What is everyone's thoughts on carrying during bow season in Moose country? Where I hunt Elk in CO there are a lot of moose, last year when hunting solo, I spooked a bull moose in heavy brush at about 10-15 yards and I was not carrying, this year I bought a .45 as I wasn't very comfortable starring down a bull moose with only a bow in my hand!
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Post by: backcountry_hunter on April 10, 2017, 10:02:17 AM
I have a myriad of different pistols but here's what I do. In brownbear country I carry spray 1st and a .44mag 2nd...often both.


In country where it's just black bears and cats I carry a small 9 or 40. Not for 4 legged predators though, just 2 legged. I live in bear/wolf country and have come to a certain level of "comfort" with blacks, wolves and cats. Browns are a little more hostile and unpredictable. Background is in LE (no longer an LEO but some habits are hard to break) and still carry most days. I stopped bringing my big heavy wheelguns when I'm outside of brown bear country and usually bring a lightweight polymer frame counter part... having 15 rounds in a survival situation in the backcountry is alot more appealing than 6.


Other than brown bears it's never crossed my mind to carry a gun for four legged animals.
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Post by: backcountry_hunter on April 10, 2017, 10:09:04 AM
Just my two cents here.  I've been thinking about what sidearm makes the most sense in the backcountry and I've decided it comes down to knowing your area.  In Lang's case, hunting in grizzly/wolf country means I'd more likely want to pack something with more of a punch.  In the area I hunt, the worst I'll come across is a black bear or cougar and to date, I've yet to have an issue with either.  A few years back I purchased a .357 revolver for but realized that having only 5 shots in a gun that kicks like a mule was not the smartest choice.  For that reason, I just purchased a Sig 9mm that can hold 15 rounds and for me, that makes me feel comfortable.  I really think my biggest concern is running into the wrong person in the backcountry so for me, I feel a 9mm with 15 rounds should do the trick.  More accurate shots on target is what I've decided to go with.  It also fits my hand better, my kit, and has the right features I like.


All that said, you have to know your area.  Is it high risk or low risk?  Choose a caliber appropriate for the area. 


Lastly, I've noticed that when this question comes up in forums, there area million different opinions on which caliber to use or not use but in reality, only a few hunters/hikers have actually had to employ said caliber while in the backcountry so unless you're that guy who has first hand experience with what works and what doesn't work when it hits the fan, it's really just educated speculation.  Most of the time our sidearms serve as a security blanket or something that makes us sleep better at night.  For that reason alone, I vote that whatever caliber makes you most comfortable/confident, that's the caliber you go for. 


Does anyone agree or disagree?  I have a feeling I'll be searching for that perfect gun my entire life!  haha


-Emory
www.byland.co (http://www.byland.co)


9mm is a fine choice, if you were going into thinking you might have to use it on a black bear I would buy the +P rounds from Buff Bore and not worry about needing something bigger. The most you can hope for with any handgun in a bear situation is to deter them, odds of killing them dead right now isn't good. You're not likely going to stop a charging bear, even a black one, dead in it's tracks with a .44 much less a 9mm unless you hit the goodies between and above the eyes. Hopefully you can inflict enough trauma and make enough noise to make them realize what they're doing is a bad decision. If you shoot it well with some stout ammo, then you've mastered 3/4's of the equation
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Post by: donny bowhunter on May 27, 2017, 02:55:24 PM
I carry glock model 23  40cal..
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Post by: backcountry_hunter on May 27, 2017, 03:09:43 PM
I do, butonly for two legged animals.
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Post by: Elk101 Admin on May 29, 2017, 11:00:28 AM
I do, small S&W .380 (feel a little safer). Mainly to warn off animals. I bivy camp. My hunting partner was bitten by a bear 2 years ago in his sleep. Test bite from a black bear. It now hangs on his wall with the help of his Colt .45. Idaho backcountry. I also hunt in mountain lion territory. I have seen 3 in the last 2 years and always seem to find their tracks overlapping ours, just feel a little safer at night with a pistol. 

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Post by: adamds22 on May 30, 2017, 09:03:45 AM
This will be my first year carrying a pistol. I'll be carrying a Ruger 45 as I'm in some areas with a pretty high moose population and just makes me a little more comfortable!
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Post by: lang on June 17, 2017, 11:54:22 AM
Elk network just put out another study done that brings up another great point if you think you are going to stop a bear you have to hit the brain or spine-nothing else will stop a charging bear.  Again they stated that 98% of spray encounters ended without injury, but 1 in 4 of encounters with a firearm discharged ended in the human being injured or killed.  1 in 4!
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Post by: mikemulligan32 on June 22, 2017, 08:09:47 AM
I carry bear spray and a S&W 44mag airlite
That sidearm is a game changer. A revolver that weighs in at 24 oz is awesome. And not trying to be all "tough guy" but honestly most would think it would kick like a mule but even running 310 grain bear loads didn't seem to be bad at all.
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Post by: Bowhunter65 on July 13, 2017, 05:39:12 AM
carry a 10mm with 200 grains of stop right there and I have a 13 year old son as a bowhunting buddy carrying bear spray.
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Post by: montanaelk31 on July 17, 2017, 11:51:27 AM
My buddy lives in Alaska.  He shot  a moose near a river with a friend.  They were within a couple hundred yards of the river and their boat so they got the animal quartered and ready to pack out.  They walked back to the boat to get their frame packs.  When they got back to the moose, a griz was on it and immediately charged. After knocking down his friend, my buddy pulled his 44 mag and yelled.  The bear came at him and he pulled the trigger once.  Dead bear at his feet.  250 grainers. Smaller grizzly but a 44 can do the job. Chest shot.   My buddy says his biggest mistake was not getting the meat away from the carcass bc they thought they'd be quick enough with the pack frames.  I agree.
Personally I carry both spray and a 44. I will go for the spray first. I think hunting with a friend is the safest thing we can do in the mountains.  Just my .02
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Post by: Kdkehoe on August 13, 2017, 10:09:22 PM
I live in western Montana, where grizzly and black bear are very common.  Anymore in certain regions it's not uncommon during rifle season to hear of someone killing an elk and having someone stand "guard" with a rifle while the partner guts it out.

During archery I carry a 10mm Glock 20 with Buffalo Bore hard cast loads.   I feel confident in dropping a grid if need be. Granted something that big and pissed will still be moving even if you got a couple rounds off.  A grizzly is my main concern as a predator or concern to humans where I hunt.  Then followed by cats and then wolves. I've done a few loops in snow in November only to find big wolf tracks next to or in my own. Creepy.  I also know a few dudes that carry a .454 Casull. Here in Griz country we can't afford to mess around. Too many guys gets charged, mauled and eaten to consider anything that wouldn't cause the most damage possible to the biggest predator. I don't feel safe without my spray and my 10mm.
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Post by: cohunter14 on August 14, 2017, 08:26:32 AM
I carry a .40 caliber handgun with me. I don't hunt in grizzly country, but there are plenty of black bears and cats around. I shouldn't ever have an encounter but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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Post by: Bull_Fighter on August 14, 2017, 09:01:30 AM
I pack a S&W .44 mag. It's heavy as hell but worth it to me as I typically backpack hunt, solo. Had a couple of close encounters with black bear and moose, but haven't had to use it yet.

I sleep with it in my hammock with me. I've had coyotes surrounding me as I slept and also had moose within a couple feet of me but I'm always half-asleep and just yell at them in some mumbling half-assed manner and fall right back asleep. I think it would take something actually attacking me in order to feel the need to use the gun, but I feel safer having it there either way.
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Post by: neckofredness on August 14, 2017, 09:52:39 AM
Always carry. in my mind it is an essential piece of gear. as far as caliber..... anything is better than nothing. so take what you are comfortable with. don't need a dang hand cannon.
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Post by: Zimmy on August 15, 2017, 02:31:39 PM
Glock APC 45
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Post by: Dustinlm on August 25, 2017, 05:03:39 PM
I carry a colt .45 in hopes that a bear isn't what I have to use it for. However, when I'm bowhunting I do carry a bear tag just in case!
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Post by: azhunting on August 25, 2017, 08:42:52 PM
Springfield XDS .45
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Post by: DudeLebowski on August 30, 2017, 01:46:46 PM
One that goes bang several times... More for other creatures than Bears... Seems the bears are the smarter creatures you come across where one might need to use a sidearm while hunting with a weapon... :-\
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Post by: Ivar88 on August 30, 2017, 02:42:51 PM
I used to carry my .40 with me in my pack, but soon realized that if I needed access to it in case of emergency, it would do me little to no good. I am also the guy who walked up 60 yards from a black bear to take a picture of it. What do I know?  :o
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Post by: bryan m on August 31, 2017, 12:12:48 PM
Glock 10mm. Always.
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Post by: DudeLebowski on September 27, 2017, 01:12:04 PM
I carry one along with Bear spray. The spray for the bears and the sidearm for everything other than a Bear. I was speaking with one of the Biologist in a Wolf area and they said the best time to hunt Wolf is during Elk season... The Wolves follow the Elk into the trees and then they kill them.... Um.... Ok.....


So as you see from this tidbit, I am not so worried about the Bears as you just have to be faster than the slowest person in the group.... It's the other things under the bed....
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Post by: SheepdogRob on September 27, 2017, 06:01:21 PM
Had a run-in with a aggressive black bear this summer on a river trip. All I had was a Glock 9mm (43) and I felt completely inadequate. Fixed the problem by buying a Ruger SRH Alaskan in .454 Casull. It's a little heavy but I like the confidence of having a pistol that will handle business.


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Post by: montanadreamer on September 28, 2017, 05:40:23 PM
44 mag and bear spray. Glock 10 would also work....would think I'd use bear spray first,  however, I wouldn't hesitate on the 44. Unfortunately, by the time you realize they're on you it's oftentimes too late for either.

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Post by: montanadreamer on September 28, 2017, 05:43:58 PM
For whoever has claimed to carry a weapon for the 'two legged creatures'....it won't solve the problem....wow.

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Post by: SheepdogRob on September 28, 2017, 08:15:03 PM
For whoever has claimed to carry a weapon for the 'two legged creatures'....it won't solve the problem....wow.

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I carry a weapon for "two legged creatures" daily and I can attest that it does solve problems. These days attack by a human type predator is far more likely than an animal.  Too many folks with nefarious motives running around.


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Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: montanadreamer on September 28, 2017, 08:44:33 PM
I get that, but for hunting? I've never carried a weapon for defending myself against 2 legged creatures while hunting....

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Post by: SheepdogRob on September 28, 2017, 08:50:52 PM
I get your point but I'd rather have it and not need it than the other way around.


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Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: montanadreamer on September 28, 2017, 09:12:41 PM
Agreed

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Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: Colorado Canuck on September 29, 2017, 12:43:09 PM
I get your point but I'd rather have it and not need it than the other way around.


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I completely agree.  I bring a lighter too, but don't smoke.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: toadmeister on November 29, 2017, 02:15:45 PM
Had this discussion on carrying a sidearm while hunting today at work.

Personally it's one more peices of gear I'd have to worry about.  I've tried it during gun seasons and didn't like the extra weight on my belt either.  Might try it if I can find a better way to carry.l for archery.

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Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: HigherCountry on November 30, 2017, 08:28:39 AM
S&W 629 .44mag


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Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: ScottinPA on March 23, 2018, 11:51:06 AM
Ruger Alaskan 454 Casull.  Heavy but compact.
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Post by: Brandon94955 on March 26, 2018, 04:36:23 PM
Thanks!
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Post by: ironhorse_archer on March 26, 2018, 07:59:21 PM
10mm or .45 either on a mil-style h-harness style shoulder holster or on my packs waist belt in addition to bear spray.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: rmcoelho on March 27, 2018, 09:39:18 AM
.357 hunting, 9mm for CCW.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: Bignate on March 29, 2018, 01:19:56 PM
how are most of you carrying?  Chest rig/ holster on belt of backpack?  Im looking for options

Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: cohunter14 on March 29, 2018, 01:32:24 PM


how are most of you carrying?  Chest rig/ holster on belt of backpack?  Im looking for options

I have a holster that clips on the waist belt of my pack.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: 406unltd on April 01, 2018, 05:46:40 PM
44 mag for me.  In western Montana I'd rather have some punch behind it but I'm still not sure if it's enough haha.  Anyhow since I solo hunt I'm thinking about also carrying spray so I have both🤞
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: LongRanger on April 07, 2018, 10:04:02 AM
how are most of you carrying?  Chest rig/ holster on belt of backpack?  Im looking for options

 I carry with a shoulder holster that will fit either of my pistols, I found that the hip holsters or paddle holsters get covered up from my pack waist belt making it more difficult to get to fast if needed.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: Kdkehoe on April 07, 2018, 12:39:32 PM
I carry as I stated and I’m not much for leg drops and hip holsters can be a pain.  I found aliengear holsters now have a pack strap mount that’s similar to a chest rig but not as bulky. Looks interesting
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: woody6899 on April 20, 2018, 07:43:42 PM
G and F keeps dumping problem bears in the middle of my hunting area. I’m looking for a new area. Lol


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Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: DTP on April 20, 2018, 07:47:05 PM
I've always carried a .357 snub nose, but I'm considering going to a single stack 9mm or maybe a snub nose .38.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: DEEF on April 20, 2018, 10:12:12 PM
After listening to Seal and Coach Chris Forrest on the EXO MTN podcast, I'll be purchasing 10mm.  He says you want velocity over caliber size of .45 & .40.  He said his wood block testing shows the need for velocity. He said the larger big revolvers will suffice as well.  He said from his testing he'd prefer 9mm over a .45.  Said, full jacket not hollow points.  Hardened lead is preferrable. 


After his story about Todd and the grizzly speed he referenced, I will not be putting my health and wellness security in bear spray. 
If I get charged, I'd rather dispatch the animal to heaven than give him some chilly and flare than a blurry smoke show.  I respect the approach to avoid and hide when in their territory, but I've seen Grizzly Man and know better to think I can bark up a big teddy.  You see guys fishing and photographing with them, I think that's absurd.
If you are man of faith, you also know spirits can control wild animals—I like to deal with that in bullets and the name the man upstairs.  And given my faith, in that order.  I think the man upstairs knew exactly what he meant when he said you'll do greater things than I.   



We used to carry the good old .44 S&W revolver and killed black bears no problem. 
Now backpacking and considering size and weight, I'm looking for a 10mm(despite it's size and weight).  I've gained loveyeyes for the Sig P220 Hunter. 


I've treed both cats and black bear with hounds and feel like my bark is big enough for them to reconsider their proximity.  I've actually treed a black bear using my voice without a hound.  Although, it was already on the run and I approached it in my truck:)—A garbage bear; even still, they don't like the noise. He did not stay treed very long:); as they do with weak treeing and/or a couple hounds on them.  Without hounds, I'm a little less confident at night and feel better at night with my gun on standby. 


In all my years hunting, I've never lit up a panther at night without hounds. I do believe cats keep their distance, but you never know what their circumstances are and I like to be pro-active-vigilant—hate to be fooled once.   


Here's the Podcast & Chris link:
http://exomountaingear.com/121/
http://www.tacticmt.com/

Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: Ivar88 on April 21, 2018, 05:51:09 AM
After listening to Seal and Coach Chris Forrest on the EXO MTN podcast, I'll be purchasing 10mm.  He says you want velocity over caliber size of .45 & .40.  He said his wood block testing shows the need for velocity. He said the larger big revolvers will suffice as well.  He said from his testing he'd prefer 9mm over a .45.  Said, full jacket not hollow points.  Hardened lead is preferrable. 


After his story about Todd and the grizzly speed he referenced, I will not be putting my health and wellness security in bear spray. 
If I get charged, I'd rather dispatch the animal to heaven than give him some chilly and flare than a blurry smoke show.  I respect the approach to avoid and hide when in their territory, but I've seen Grizzly Man and know better to think I can bark up a big teddy.  You see guys fishing and photographing with them, I think that's absurd.
If you are man of faith, you also know spirits can control wild animals—I like to deal with that in bullets and the name the man upstairs.  And given my faith, in that order.  I think the man upstairs knew exactly what he meant when he said you'll do greater things than I.   



We used to carry the good old .44 S&W revolver and killed black bears no problem. 
Now backpacking and considering size and weight, I'm looking for a 10mm(despite it's size and weight).  I've gained loveyeyes for the Sig P220 Hunter. 


I've treed both cats and black bear with hounds and feel like my bark is big enough for them to reconsider their proximity.  I've actually treed a black bear using my voice without a hound.  Although, it was already on the run and I approached it in my truck:)—A garbage bear; even still, they don't like the noise. He did not stay treed very long:); as they do with weak treeing and/or a couple hounds on them.  Without hounds, I'm a little less confident at night and feel better at night with my gun on standby. 


In all my years hunting, I've never lit up a panther at night without hounds. I do believe cats keep their distance, but you never know what their circumstances are and I like to be pro-active-vigilant—hate to be fooled once.   


Here's the Podcast & Chris link:
http://exomountaingear.com/121/ (http://exomountaingear.com/121/)
http://www.tacticmt.com/ (http://www.tacticmt.com/)

I just listened to the same podcast and it reminded me of the age old question as to whether you want a heavier arrow that hits hard or if you want a faster arrow that may not carry the weight to penetrate completely. I like the idea of the 10mm, but I still wouldn't discount the .45.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: woody6899 on April 30, 2018, 02:56:10 PM
I ended up buying a 10mm. Double stack. 16 round clips.....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180430/2a3eb69de58d979a4615220769f4ba7a.jpg)


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Post by: Kdkehoe on April 30, 2018, 07:39:32 PM
Very nice. Run buffalo bore hard cast through there and you’ll put down anything you need in the woods. 
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Post by: 87TT on May 02, 2018, 11:00:28 AM
If I have pants on, I'm packing. Just a choice I made years ago. When I am hunting I carry a S&W 340PD. Ultra light .357 mag 2"bbl. I carry it on my belt or if carrying a bigger pack, the hip belt strap on the pack. It weighs in at 12 oz. empty. It is a bear to shoot with magnum loads but if you need it.... Just everyday I have a Springfield Armory XDS .45. Now grizzly country I would take the 44 mag with the heaviest cast lead bullets I could find.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: Mmjohnson403 on August 11, 2018, 06:41:36 PM
I live in Alberta so I bought a Rossi.ranchhand in 44. MAG they are non restricted here

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Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: adamds22 on August 16, 2018, 12:53:02 PM
I carry a Ruger .45 American, bought my custom Kenai chest holster that I am patiently waiting for. Ran into a decent bull moose at 10-15 yards with my bow and decided it was time.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: 406unltd on August 28, 2018, 06:05:43 AM
44 mag here.  I can’t say for sure that it is sufficient for griz but it’s better than nothing.  I pair that with spray as well.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: Tecumseh on October 20, 2018, 11:25:49 AM
I deer hunt in a super rural area with little or no cell reception at all and carry my GP 100 357 here in Ohio, out west I pack my Ruger Alaskan 44 mag.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: Tenner on October 22, 2018, 06:09:36 AM
Im an advocate of carrying a handgun that you can shoot accurately under pressure. It that means a big revolver then do it, if its a small revolver thats fine, if its a semi auto then great.


I personally carry a Glock 20 (10MM) Loaded with 200gr Hard Cast Lead. I decided I shoot a Semi, faster and more accurate than a revolver. I can shoot a revolver just fine, but when it came down to business of drawing a firearm and putting rounds down range, I am more effective with the glock. So I chose to carry it over my 454 Casull. I run a Kenai Chest Holster and love it.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: rfra on January 11, 2019, 11:47:38 AM
I carry a Glock 22 (.40), hip carry when hunting.  I really dont even notice it, so there's very little "cost" to doing so and gives some peace of mind.  I used to carry a revolver arguing they were more reliable, but after doing some training scenarios I realized that in the unlikely event that I ever do need to use a handgun in defense (either 2 or 4 legged) I want a lot more ammo than a revolver provides.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: sniperbait on January 11, 2019, 12:17:23 PM
I carry a .40 XDm. Im quite accurate with it and feel very comfortable with it. Looking at getting a holster that I can put on my pack and carry that way.
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: wyodanjar on February 01, 2019, 12:40:33 PM
A 45 acp S&W converted to 460 Rowland
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: HiZ on February 01, 2019, 09:18:42 PM
Seems that not many have experienced our worked with charging bear scenarios. They don't stop much with noise and when that 9mm smacks their skull the charging is likely fueled even more
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: Wenzel747 on February 03, 2019, 07:46:44 AM
Springfield xdm tactical in .45 acp w hardball for griz
Title: Re: Who packs a pistol?
Post by: MN Hunter on July 21, 2020, 02:32:24 PM
10mm carrying here