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Archery / Re: Arrow weight with short draw length
« on: April 29, 2020, 08:42:18 PM »
I would say if you're draw weight is 70 lbs, regardless of draw length, I would recommend around a 400-450 grain arrow.  Having said that, I never want to be that guy that says..."you need to do this or you're silly".  I think a lot of folks focus more on arrow weight, FOC, arrow diameter, broadheads, etc.  In the end, if it shoots great out of your bow and you're confident and accurate...then you'll have no trouble getting elk in the freezer (beyond the inherent difficulties archery brings).  I use to focus way too much on arrow weight and FOC, shooting over 600 grains, and then I slowly transitioned to a lighter and flatter shooting arrow that allowed for more minor errors in my ranging of elk.  This resulted in better accuracy in dynamically changing hunting scenarios and more dead elk.  Modern bows are so efficient and fast compared to the old bows I started out hunting with, you can achieve a clean pass through on an elk with good shot placement with arrow weights you're currently using.  Just my 2 cents.

Campfire / Re: Happy Easter
« on: April 13, 2020, 09:59:24 PM »
Happy Easter y'all!!!!!

It's far less detail and more a study related to fires on elk ecology, but worth a read if you're interested in gaining more knowledge about elk...check out the following site:  https://www.fs.fed.us/database/feis/animals/mammal/ceel/all.html#HomeRangeAndMovements

General Elk Hunting / Re: New to it all...
« on: March 26, 2020, 11:06:14 PM »
Welcome.  I would say you're just looking at just the western half, and you'd be dividing it into north, central, and southern.  I can only speak to my experience of hunting certain areas all over the state.  Southern CO is, like you said, now mostly draw only now due to calf survival rates.  Southern units used to be really fantastic, but experienced more and more pressure over the last couple decades and have declined quiet a bit.  Success can still be had for sure, and I wouldn't say any other OTC areas are significantly better or worse.  Central CO (specifically the Grand Mesa) has lots of access and a lot of atv/road based hunters, so if you can find pockets to get a few miles from the road it will serve you well.  In Northern CO, you've got lots of national forest and wilderness, and the largest elk herds in CO...but also some of the most heavily pressured elk.  Also, there are a decent amount of outfitters operating numerous miles back into the wilderness areas, so don't think hiking 6 miles into wilderness will get you away from all the hunters.  Like others have said, having multiple game plans and covering a lot of ground a few miles from the road until you get into fresh sign will serve you well. 
Also, remember that Colorado OTC elk are also the most call shy, so don't be surprised if you're in fresh sign and none of your calling tactics are producing much.  Spot and stalk or setting up on water/trails between bedding and water has produced many more opportunities and elk in the freezer for me.
All that said, I've had success/opportunities across the state and I would just keep sticking with your planning meetings and find a unit/area that is going to allow you guys to have as many areas to check out within relatively close proximity. 
Once you settle on a unit, shoot me a message and if I've hunted the area I'll give you whatever info I've got (unless it's my secret spot...haha).

Hunting Gear / Re: What is your choice in bino cases?
« on: February 27, 2020, 07:54:58 PM »
Had a Badlands Mag and wasn't a huge fan, switched to Alaska Guide Creations Hybrid MAX and love it!

Campfire / Re: So Long Ol Arky
« on: February 21, 2020, 11:22:28 PM »
Another great advocate for the sport and this family we love has been lost, and Phil will be sincerely missed.  It's up to all of us to ensure that, like Phil, we continue to support all those that are seeking knowledge and promote educating/advocating for hunting in a society that is progressively pushing back on our way of life.

General Elk Hunting / Re: 2020 Colorado Big Game Brochure Now Available
« on: February 19, 2020, 06:20:21 PM »

Depending on what unit(s) you hunt, the Regs show one hunt code for 71, 72, 73, 711.

One hunt code for 74, 741

One hunt code for 75, 751

One hunt code for 77, 78, 771

So you arent restricted to just one GMU

Unfortunately my #1 spot is in 70, which stands alone...sigh.  :(

General Elk Hunting / Re: 2020 Colorado Big Game Brochure Now Available
« on: February 17, 2020, 08:13:20 PM »
^^^ Wapiti Will
From what Im hearing the SW units will have liberal bull tag allotment, cows will be restricted heavily.
So if you want to keep hunting your spots, you may even be able to in the Secondary Draw.

I'm hearing the same thing. And if you are just going for points in a year, you should easily be able to get a bull tag down there with a second choice after getting a point with your first choice. At least that's what it sounds like.

That is good to hear, just wish the secondary draw was exempt from the List A license limitation or they made those bull tags List B in the secondary draw...neither of which I would ever expect to happen.  Picking one up on the secondary draw will tie me to that unit, and I love that I can bounce around to OTC units/areas I'm familiar with depending on which areas are in a drought, experiencing unusually high pressure, or just close to home for a quick evening hunt after work. 
I'll just use this as an opportunity to go find some new areas. 
I'm am also very concerned about how many strictly OTC archery hunters will be displaced from those SW CO units into the remaining, and already overcrowded, OTC units.  Nonresident hunters may be less likely to want to shell out the extra cost of a qualifying license+application fee, and continue to purchase OTC tags and hunt elsewhere.  I'll try to remember to start up a poll/information gathering thread in October to see how the new changes impacted everyone's 2020 season.

General Elk Hunting / Re: 2020 Colorado Big Game Brochure Now Available
« on: February 15, 2020, 07:00:07 PM »
Only change I liked in this year's brochure was the archery season dates starting a little later and running until the end of September.  However, I'm crying over the fact that one of my best honey holes isn't in the picture anymore.  All of southwestern Colorado is now draw only for archery, and I utilize the draw for other tags/points and always hunt OTC archery.  So most of my best hunting spots are now out of the picture, and get the pleasure of starting from scratch in some new units...sigh.  :(

General Elk Hunting / Re: Colorado Elk Bugle/Rut Report
« on: September 25, 2019, 07:34:16 PM »

I've experienced similar encounters with bulls in Colorado that experience a lot of hunting pressure and are (for the most part) very risk averse.  cohunter14's input was good, and could be what it takes to seal the deal.
One tactic that seems to be effective for me on bulls that don't seem to want to play, is to mimic their risk averse behavior....which usually involves them sticking tight to their cows regardless of another bull screaming next to them, and when they are bugling throughout the day it tends to be almost soft and whiny in order to not reach out very far.  So I will stick with light grunts and short whiny bugles (anything aggressive would just get them to lock up and move away) and after a few responses I'll mix in some cow calls.  That tactic has worked several times to just get them interested enough to come check out the situation without thinking it's a hunter or another bull looking to steal his cows.  The archery hunters continue to increase in numbers and knowledge (often from similar sources, and therefore tactics), so it's always good to keep expanding your playbook and trying different things.  I'm far from an expert, but maybe some of my ideas can help others be successful....which is what this site and the hunting brotherhood/family is all about!

Hunt Planner / Re: First Elk Hunt - Unit Advice!
« on: August 16, 2018, 08:18:53 PM »
Great intel just joined Elk101.  This being my VERY first post.

 Enjoying the forums and the information,

im Leaving NC on Sept 13 to hunt the last week of archery. Im also looking at 15, ALSO 231, 25 and 26 over by the flat tops.

Has anyone hunted the old 2016 burn on the Sarvis creek area?

Sarvis Creek Wilderness Area is closed and closure area is expanding as the Silver Creek fire grows.  So don't expect to be able to access much of 15 unless we get a monsoon, and all the hunters planning for the closed areas will be displaced to open areas.  I've hunted the 2016 burn, but it is fairly small and gets a lot of hunting pressure due to being the most recent burn in the unit and the fact that a lot of guys are running onX and trying to get back in the wilderness.  So I would start formulating multiple backup plans.  Good luck out there and have a safe trip out.

General Elk Hunting / Re: Who's Hunting the Colorado Opener?
« on: August 16, 2018, 07:58:09 PM »
Every year!

Archery / Re: Single versus multi pin sight set-up
« on: August 11, 2018, 10:22:33 PM »
You could always have the best of both worlds and pick up a sight from Option Archery (multipin and a sliding single pin, but multiple pins can be flipped out of the way if you want to just see the single slider)I personally don't have one yet, but have been thinking about pulling the trigger on one. 

Archery / Re: Crossover stabilizer
« on: August 11, 2018, 10:13:13 PM »
Just got my 821 a week ago and LOVE it!

Archery / Re: Which broadheads have failed you?
« on: August 01, 2018, 08:24:00 AM »
Have never shot a mechanical, so I've never had a "failure".  Just have had some that didn't create a wound channel like I wanted to see.  I've damaged some of the blades and replaced them, but I have yet to try anything that provides more damage and penetration than the original Ramcats.

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